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Amy Sukwan's avatar

It's amazing how unflaggingly Thailand media has stuck to the narrative, is it not? I'm sure some is a save face thing but still repeating all the lies again and again does make it difficult to trudge through. I'm glad many want to move on with their lives but I still want accountability for the victims, which is basically all of us

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Nicholas Creed's avatar

It is both amazing and unsettling.

I think it will be difficult for the government to put the genie back in the bottle now, after the whole country partied hard, drank together, and cathartically danced away their repression of the past three years. Offhand comments from local food vendors in my local area are showing an increased awareness of the propaganda and fear-mongering.

I think we have still have a way to go before the true horrors are realised by the general public.

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

There's still a lot of people quietly getting their bodies cremated at Wat Muang Mai. They don't come back even if the tourists do...

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DWB's avatar

I was sitting at the Thai immigration office a couple of days ago with my mask off and one of the officials called out through the crowd and told me to put it on, adding that there was a new kind of Covid spreading.

I asked my Thai wife about it, and she said the rumor on her Line Chat groups is that it's a type of Covid that mutated enough that existing tests don't detect it. It doesn't have any symptoms except that people can die suddenly, and it's already happened to eight Thai people.

I think it's progress that the unexplained deaths are being noticed and talked about more openly now, but blaming vaccination still seems taboo.

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

I am praying that the stupid mask thing never comes back. For almost one year I was terrified of immigration offices over it. I was able to slowly cope around my own area thankfully I had a few Thai police I knew a bit who looked the other way and over time I had a good idea where I could and could not go safely without wearing a facemask. But those drives to Phuket Town to immigration gave me nightmares as all bets were off. It still seems very taboo to tie deaths to the jabs. A friend in Ohio recently was diagnosed with cancer she is sadly around my age just turned 44. Her father died suddenly maybe one year ago she found his body and they even did an autopsy. I was asking my brother the results of the autopsy no drugs or foul play but did he get the Covid jabs or not? My brother said they never asked!

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Nicholas Creed's avatar

I was pleased to see most of the immigration officers unmasked at Chaengwattana just before Songkran. Now it has probably reverted back to the new abnormal again. Today in Bkk Post:

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The ministry says the public should exercise extreme caution to prevent infections. People should maintain self-preventive measures, such as observing the mask-wearing mandate in public places, frequently washing

their hands, respecting social distancing and getting a booster shot, it said.

The ministry is still providing vaccines free of charge and now has over 10

million doses of multi-based vaccine platforms. It has also issued

guidelines for receiving the vaccine, recommending people get one dose

every year, similar to regular flu shots. The two vaccines will be

administered to people at the same time starting next month.

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They refer to the "mask wearing mandate" ?? That finished in June 2022. I hope they aren't resurrecting this.

I'm sorry to hear about your friend, these cancer diagnoses are frightening in how frequently we are hearing about them both on the news and through people we know.

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Amy Sukwan's avatar

I hope she can find a way to heal but I don't even know how aggressive it is. If I were her I would forgo traditional treatment but that's her choice.

I really hope they stop with the masks as I will likely be travelling around Thailand soon including to places off the beaten path with no tourists. I am starting to notice that people are dying suddenly and family does not want to address the elephant in the room of jab status. Beyond the fact that this lets the criminals get away with their crimes I've been pondering why. If family members also took the shot I don't think they can live with the guilt, having to come to terms with government and health authority betrayal and the fear of they themselves acknowledging that they could become a victim of died suddenly too. So now Thailand is doubling down on a strange new variant that causes sudden deaths so get more jabs and wear masks. What nonsense twisted logic!

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Aoratos's avatar

Interestingly (and surprisingly), I am noticing more Thais take them off since Songkran. A couple of women I've known for two years, who work at a local 7/11, dropped by today to pick up some kittens we were giving away, and it was the first time I actually saw their face. It's like Songkran has had a cathartic effect…

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Nicholas Creed's avatar

It has had a cathartic effect for many. It has also had another effect of deepening the fear to absolute hysteria for others (since the Govt 'reporting' their latest propaganda).

A lady in my condo is masking her 6 month old baby. Another lady in local coffee shop grabbed her masked toddler by the hand as I entered the shop and recoiled in horror just walking backwards into the corner, like a scene out of a horror movie. I guess I was the unmasked bio-hazard monster.

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BlueSphinx's avatar

Here a gem featured on ThaiNewsRoom, 3 days ago:

" Dr. Opas Karnkawinpong, permanent secretary of the Public Health Ministry, said this year’s Songkran celebration which took place after a three-year pause has seen people having close contact with others without wearing a face mask and it is expected that there will now be a spike in Covid cases. "

It's beyond pathetic !

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Michael's avatar

More likely a spike in NSUs.

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Michael's avatar

Lots of Thais (I hate to say it but the majority appear to be girls and women) are still walking around in face nappies in the seaside town where I live. They even wear them on bicycles and motor scooters (sans crash helmet as they presumably believe a mask protects against a cracked skull) and walking the near-deserted beach and promenade.

Have they ever bothered to research the so-called "science" behind masking? The author of the article cited below studied 170-plus pieces of research and concluded concluded that surgical and cloth masks as currently are being used (without other forms of PPE protection), do nothing to control the transmission of Covid-19 virus. He adds:"Current evidence implies that face masks can be actually harmful".

Knowledge is strength. Ignorance is bliss - but only, sadly, for the tinpot tyrants using fear of a never-isolated virus to manipulate and control those gullible enough to have elected them to office.

https://brownstone.org/articles/studies-and-articles-on-mask-ineffectiveness-and-harms/

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